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This is great news. I know I can't wait to see the innovations and quality you are bringing to the Indian name. I'm hoping you can release more on the particulars of the Chief and more photos and videos soon.

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Hey IMC this is great, actual news from the Mountain folk. I'm thrilled to hear about a possible pre-order and a maybe new motorcycle. If I see some stuff to order we may soon be able to possibly have options to review. Okay, I know I'm being sarcastic, I'm sorry. I really, really do want IMC to be a great motorbike. I love Harley's and all the big cruisers but Indians are a work of art, to me anyway. I'm very excited and impatient to see what you guys have done. Good luck and Thank you for all your hard work.
"Marty"

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Nice to see the Indian Motorcyles being reborn again. For all of us that purchased Indian Motorcyles during the last rebirth, is the company going to make parts available for the productions models from 1998 to 2003?

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Sounds like Indian is moving along nicely.
There are a lot of people who are still curious, and would like some questions answered.
Cost of Machine?
Warranty?
Dealerships locations?
Components? (We still don't know ANYTHING regarding Engines--Transmissions--Brakes etc.)
Will you build parts to suport the Gilroy bikes?
Do you hold any liability to the still existing safety recalls on the Gilroy Bikes?
Congratulations Indian Motorcycle--we wish you well on your return to the American Road.
But we still have a lot of questions for you to answer.

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Just a big question here. Indian of Weston is not being selected as a dealer. As one of the only dealerships left open, I am curious. Weston has outstanding service and is my choice for a dealership. I was told that they are not located in an area that Indian is interested in right now? Here is a past dealer that is maintaining support for the Garlic Indians and is not even on the list. Whats up with that.

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I really like what is happening at IMC. I own 2 Origional Indian Chiefs, and A gilroy Chief. I have had and riden Indian since 1964 and they are the best thing that has ever happened to me, I love indian Motocycles. Keep up the good work and when the new Indian is ready and only when it is ready, bring it out.

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Hey, I am very excited about the New Indian Motocycles coming out; I own a 2001 Indian Chief and have Kustomed it out to fit me and it gets all the looks; I am very proud of being an Indian Motocycle owner, I look forward to meeting many others who purchase the New Indian Bikes, Indian is special and left a historical mark that can never be diminished; Lets all step up to the plate and support Indian as they come back again, this time for keeps; Signed:  "Rez Dog, Warrior Secretary, Seattle Iron Indian Riders Asscociation.     

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Caint wait till the new indian bikes hit the show room

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Let's see some CLEAR and REAL photos of ACTUAL RUNNING bikes.

Let's see some magazine articles.

In other words, let's see some actual PROOF instead of the usual baseless platitudes.

This is probably the last chance for the brand name, I sincerely hope you all don't screw it up, but up to now I've seen nothing of any substance whatsover.

Attn: NDN_ryder

NDN_ryder :

We have set up our dealer requirements to ensure the financial longevity of our dealerships. Their success is imperative to our success.

We are aware of and applaud Weston's relationship with the Gilroy Indian community and we hope to be able to offer them a dealership in the near future.

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Erin - When you say you hope to be able to offer Indian Weston a dealership in the near future are you implying that the financial conditions of owning an Indian dealership MIGHT be being revised by Indian Motorcycle?
There has been talk lately that your financial requirements seem to be holding back the development of a dealer network.
And there has been talk that your financial requirements are being reconsidered.
Won't it be difficult to sell a new--untested (by the public) motorcycle with no dealer support--and no clear indication of how warranty work will be handled?
It would seem quite a leap of faith for ANYONE to purchase a new Indian Motorcycle with no local wrenches to take care of the inevitable problems.
There are a lot of people cheering you on in this endeavor--but there are also a lot of people beginning to question your direction--which seems to be round about and unfocused.

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KC:

Our current dealer requirements are not public information, neither are our current dealer locations.
When it is time to sell our new motorcycle to the public, there will be a clear indication to the public of how warranty work will be handled.

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We had an Indian Scout - loved it! Then bought the 03 Chief Roadmaster -- NOTHING can compare to the awesome ride or classic beauty of the bike. . It has always stood apart from the "other" bikes. We have never had a problem with it and are very proud owners/riders. A beautiful day, long casual ride stopping at local mom& pops places in small town Americal on the Roadmaster is about as perfect a day as you can hope for

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There's an enormous amount of good will that has been decicated to INDIAN and the success of the Company.Many people who were honest,and hard working ...and dedicated to the success of the Gilroy INDIAN,lost their investment of money,labor,and trust.
Although the current company representatives seem to believe they are somehow entitled to more consideration of the marque and it's loyalty,this is a delusion that offends some of us with a bit more dirt in our face and wear and tear in our bones.
When some folks speak of wanting to actually see the evidence of progress with a new machine,and the foundation to support it's emergence and continuity,it is because so many people have already been fooled by ,and made angry by the slight of hand approach by which good will is consumed,as if it had no value.
So if some,as I,ask for some evidence....if not specific...that marketing of the new product will be targeted to new and present owners of INDIAN motorcycles and a network of dealers,rider groups,and friends interested in their success,please listen.We wish you well,in order that you succeed.

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I also have high hopes for the return of the Indian. I have #242 of the first Chief Run. Must say I love the bike.
With about 1800 miles and many returns to Dealers about a head shake issue, myself and the bike went down at highway speed. Indian Gilroy refused any and all liability in the matter for what was called a Inheriant Design Flaw.. I have rebuilt the Bike it is my baby and yes I survived the wreck withstanding a long time to heal.. I truly look forward to a new Indian. I will be watching your site for updates.. Getting ready to ride in Northern Minnesota..

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Will Indian Motorcycle make a showing this year at the Laconia Motorcycle week in NH? I will be there and would like to at least see on in person.

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I wish Indian the best as it starts down its new road. I sincerely hope that, unlike other motorcycle manufactures, that Indian will take heed that a sale is a one time shot but service is reoccurring. IMC left a bad taste to many people last time around, as I'm sure KM realizes, but it is customer service in their dealerships that, IMHO, will sail or sink this ship. I would enjoy seeing Indian take a VERY active part in monitoring their dealerships. Also, I hope that Indian will start to offer factory tours as soon as this summer. Seeing the Chief being build would be something I'd like. Press on, Indian. The Legend Roars Again!

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I wish you all the best in this endeavor and I hope that you will include parts support for the Gilroy Indians, we could use the help. It certainly would be nice to have a "one stop source" for parts instead of searching Ebay or the handful vendors that still support Indians, figuring out which Harley compatible parts will match up or modifying them to fit our Indians. Thank God for the Indian forums, since Gilroy closed its doors, I believe that they have been the collaborative knowledge base that has kept these bikes on the road and visible to the world for the last 5 years. 2 months after I bought my brand new '03 Roadmaster the Gilroy IMC went under so I have never seen true manufacturer support on these. When you release those new Chiefs, hopefully we won't have to answer those questions anymore i.e. "Didn't they go out of business?", "When did they build these?", "Where were they built?" or from the even less knowledgeable... "Indian, I've never heard of those before" and "Is that a Harley?" Once again, the best of luck to you all and I hope that you continue to keep Indians on the road for many years to come.
Mike

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I own a 2001 spirit, 29,900 miles and change later I'm still riding strong. Looking foward to riding that new Chief shouldnt be parked to much. Long live the real legend Indian Motorcycles.

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THIS BLOG MENTIONS A GILROY DEALERSHIP STILL LOYAL TO THE INDIAN BRAND. I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER GILROY DEALERSHIPS STILL CARRING THE INDIAN BANNER HIGH THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF. COULD YOU LIST THESE SO WE OWNERS KNOW WHERE TO TAKE OUR BELOVED INDIANS TO GET EXPERIANCED SERVICE. FELLOW RIDERS: INPUT PLEASE

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The weather is turning nice here in tn ,a bit rainey but spring is in the air Bradford pears are blooming the Buttercups are up frogs are singing in the pond. And im in the market for a big twin bike. my sportster still runs great but i have some long distance travel planed.long interstate miles...Now indian folks i have been waiting for some time now holding back from buying till i could see you alls bikes. So please get some bikes on the showroom floor.Now I wish you all the best and I know you all will do just fine.thanks

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Wanting to buy a reliable motorcycle. Im not the harley type. Dont care to spend my money overseas right now. Sure am in love with the styling. Im not a rich man. Even if I were I couldnt throw money after some beautiful romantic notion that didnt run. The money you'll be asking for one of these things will no doubt be alot. Im a parent who tries to do right by his family. I'd love for you to be successful. Ill just have to watch for awhile before I buy. There's only value in it for me if that premium price goes for a premium bike. I'd love to see you guys succeed. good luck.

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I have been buzzin this site for a while now in regards to the news of the "new injun" release. 2008-2009 , I am a avid reader of many motorcycle magazines and have yet to come across and kind of information on the new machine (none that have any depth in info), nor have i seen any "presence" at the motorcycle shows.. priming the motorpsycho public about the pending release of the new product...
I have put on 150,000 klm on my 01 Chief...and loved every one of them...When it is time for a back-up bike ..lol.. (cause that 01 baby has earned it's spot in my garage forever)..i would consider an 09., but only if i could actually sit my deriaire on one.... Lets hope the hype is backed with some real progress...with some MORE presence in the future..in mags...shows and showrooms . I wish you the best..cause you could be.

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Great to see things are coming along for the new Indians. I hope you have a dealer situated in the northwest suburbs of Chicago. Can you let us know if and when parts will be available for the '98 - '03 Indians? Product support for these older bikes is going to be crucial if we want to sell them and upgrade to a new Indian. Best of luck to you and can't wait to see the new bikes rollin' down the highway!

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Humble scout rider . Wonders what happened to the pioneering attitudes of the 40's and 50's when those guys had issues on the road .they took action found solutions and kept on riding . Thats what riding an Indian is all about . My little scout has never left me on the side of the road for too long .never mind the time i tested how far i could go between fill ups . So have a litte faith gentlemen . It may be a few years because my scout has many miles left in her but I WILL HAVE A NEW CHIEF SOMEDAY

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Looking forward to the new Indians.

Each and every post should have been answered by now. Let's start business right.

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I spent the $24.000 in july 2003 onthe chief roadmaster deluxe oil leak of course rite away'. Had A bad motor - change
that out drive belt sqeak - put diffrent brand on - solved that problem. Road & road &road somethimes VERY hard ; I showed
no mercy at all to the 100 power plus. Many a parade; many polker runs later still no oil leaks no problems 14.000 miles later.
Then found compufire starter problems - 3 of them in a row in 3 mo ; now use after market starter [ cumpufire out of
buisness now] . 15,328 miles 404.3 hrs later I finally had to put A front tire on, still likeing it alot.
Hope to see you at Algona Freedom Rally in Iowa

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In RE: to Bear Tooth I live in Ohio near Cincinnati and have to take my scout 2.5 hrs north to Weston, Ohio to get work done. When will you list dealerships that are still servicing Indians and new ones that will? For us Gilroy indian owners I'm hoping that this does not become an issue when the new Indians come out. On to a new subject now, I'm looking to have a feather or two painted on the back of my helmet. I haven't done any research yet but was wondering if anyone can tell me if having 1,2,3 or more feathers on it would be the PC thing to do (if there is such a thing) :) Other then that ride on...

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Come on all you naysayers...all the ones bitchin about results, gotta drive 5 hours for service, blah blah blah, give them a chance. Taking the reigns after the last debacle was not an easy thing to do and then basically start from scratch??!!! There is not ONE easy piece of the puzzle for them to put together here. Do you want to see another Gilroy? If so, just keep bitchin at 'em and make more stress for them...since that is all your doing. I have read enough about the new owners to know that they are not going to release something that is less than what is has to be, whether to live up to the name of Indian or simply to have long time riders say, "This is the best damn Indian I have ever been on." Or do you want to hear, "Damn Gilroy bikes sucked with all their problems." Simply, getting control of the web site, putting in a new facility, establishing a team of kick ass engineers, some of the best in the business is enough to make me sit back and be patient since I want it done right this time. No more "Do-Overs".

The guys bitchin about dealers....there is good reason to bring up the issue and even more of a good reason for the Indian folks to be a bit more particular. We had a used car delearship that was selling and servicing Indians. They sucked beyond belief, and in selling them it was just as bad. I am sure folks out there don't want to see that happen again either.

Despite all the bitchin and chin grabbin and hell raisin the Indian folks are more focused now than any other attempt at bringing the Indian name back to life. Give them a chance....these guys are making a good honest try at making you all happy (I mean Indian die hards). If this time next year they are blowing smoke...be my guest and bitch all you want. But at least give them a chance. Lots of things can change as the new Indian is molded into place and becomes part history and part of the legend.

Chief "Tired of the Bitchin"

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I have a 2001 Indian Chief Nieman Marcus Edition with 1500 miles. Love the bike. The only complaint I have for the 98-01 Gilroy bikes is that the front end feels heavy and wants to flop at low speeds. I belive these bikes have a 36 degree rake and might be the cause of the flop. The weather is great year round here in SoCal. I always get thumbs up when I ride my Chief and or have people walk around it when its parked. Why haven't we seen Indian news in most of the moto bike magazines? I've been trying to spread the word about the new Indian and been directing people to the Indian website. IMC needs to update the site more often, rather than teasing the potential future customers. Summer is coming and people want to ride bikes. If the people cant see what Indian has to offer they will find a different bike to buy. I am tired of seeing the same o Harley roadkings and the new coming Star motorcycles. PLEASE IMC do something to your website and get our pants wet with new updates and photos/videos of your new bikes. Tell us sometihing new and exciting so we can go to bed dreaming about your new creation and our new toys. Tell us about options and upgrades so we can start making a list to budget our check books. I cant reserve someting that I haven't fully seen or sat on. It's like getting married to someone you haven't seen or "you know what". GIVE US SOMETHING to drew over on. PLEASE. Oh one more thing. How much of the will be USA made? I been told from Indian haters that the 98-04 where mainly all overseas parts and that it was considered a kit bike put together in the USA. Remember INDAIN was born in the USA and should be made by AMERICA.

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Well Chief "Tired of the Bitchin"?
Are you saying a nearby dealership and warranty work don't concern you?
Are you saying a 5 hour drive for service would not be a consideration for you?

I believe the used car dealership issue has been laid to rest by KM.
50 dealerships nation wide to start with.
Established within the next 3 years if I remember correctly.

Dedicated showroom exclusively INDIAN!!!!

Nope--no used car dealerships to deal with.

Although I will say.
MY Used Car/Indian dealer from the Gilroy days was one of the most stand up people I've ever run into in the Auto sales/service game.
Jack Miller of North Kansas City, Mo.
And--it sounds like there are a few others out there the Gilroy Indian Community still support.

Bike is rumored to be ready to hit the road this summer, and the location and number of dealerships seems to be a BIG SECRET.

I can't imagine anyone buying a PREMIUM MOTORCYCLE (price will reflect quality) without an established dealership network.

Nope--I'll set back and watch it unfold for now.

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Hi, I'm Italian fan of indian motorcycle and my dream is buy in the future indian Chief.
I see on your home page the new 2009 indian chief and I think that is wonderful.
I hope in a great future for indian motorcycle.
thank you
Luca

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Erin;
Can you at least tell us HOW FAST they actually go before they THROW ON THE BRAKES?
I know a couple of guys that might be interested in helping in that particular prototype testing--Starbucks to Starbucks--and there's a LOT of Starbucks out in California!!!
This bunch I'm thinking of could prove invaluable to the go fast throw on the brakes testing!!!

Let me know--I can hook you up.

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I love the styling of these bikes. I really want one. My riding buddy has a Gilroy Chief, and no one ever coments on my Harley when it is parked next to his. That being said, he has worked very hard to keep that bike on the road. Lots of issues, and very little support. I am very interested in getting a new Indian in a few years. I doubt it will be a Cheif, because I am having visions of a 100 inch power plus stuffed into a bike the size of a sportster. :) I wish the new Indian the best of luck, and I hope smaller bikes will be out in a few years for those of us with legs that won't reach the ground on a Chief. Can't wait to see some reviews of the bikes.

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As far as top speed on a Cheef?
I can tell you.
Over 85 --lose the wind shield.
Over 135--the skirts on the front fender want to begin to lift the front of the bike.

Hey--if you can delay the new Chief one more year?

I'm sending my Cheef back to Joe Malfa this coming winter.

Tell your test riders we can do a comparison after I get him back.

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A friend and I have been watching your web site since 2006 or 2007. For two years, he was telling everbody that he was going to buy a Chief when they came out. He bought a Harley 4 months ago instead. Please update your site and give us more info. I almost broke down myself and bought an '08 Road King. I want an Indian, but need to know more about the product. I am not going to wait too much longer. I like the Road King and would at least be riding. Please update your website with more information so that I can become more informed. If you are trying to create an "air of mystique", you are failing and causing people to loose faith in your ability to deliver your product. If the bike is a well riding, reliable, art piece, I will own one. If this site isn't updated by July with more pictures and specifics, my new 12' x 16' motorcycle shop that is now just being cedar shingled will have a Harley in it. Sorry, I truly hope to be riding an Indian in 09.

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I bought my first Indian motorcycle back in1968,it was a 1946 scout. In 1969 sold it to buy a wedding ring so I could get married, (got a whole $150.00 for it). Well in 2002 I got the itch to ride again told the wife " I still got you and the same ring kids are married and gone I am getting a bike " I wanted to be different,everyone it seemed were buying Harley Davidsons. I visited the Indian dealer in Raleigh N.C. and was blown away by the new Indian Motorcycles and knew I had to buy one,a 2002 cobalt blue scout. I thought that I had arrived until I had 34 miles on the bike and the ignition failed on I-85 and was almost hit by an 18 wheeler. Not too good! I hope Indian will go with a better ignition than Thunder Heart I had two before going to another brand. I still have the scout and love it and love to tell folks that "I have an Indian Motorcycle" I was thrilled to know that the new factory is going to be in Kingsmoutian N.C. down the road a few miles from Durham N.C. Folks get it right this time! do your homework listen to Indian riders and put out a product that people would wait in line to buy. I can't wait to see the new bikes in person . Maybe in Myrtle Beach bike week in May? Ride safe everyone. David Latta 3/31/08

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Cannot wait till you showcase the Chief. Is there a list of the areas that your company is considering for dealerships, if so please tell me that the Austin/San Antonio, Texas corridor is on that list. This area is prime for Long scenic riders like myself. Will wait till the Chief comes out before any new purchase.
Thanks & good luck,
Peter.

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As my name implies, I'm a Harley rider. However, I've always been an Indian fan. Watching the ups and (mostly) downs of IMC has caused pain for the brand, no doubt. When I saw that Stellican had stepped in, I knew that if anyone could do it, they could. Now, it's been a while, and I'm having doubts, but, believe me, I sincerely hope you give the "MoCo" a run for it. And I also hope that your dealerships are more than the boutiques that HD's have become.
Good Luck!

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I CAN;T WAIT TILL THEY OPEN THEN MAYBE I CAN GET A LUGAGE RACK FOR MY 2003 ROADMASTER SPRIT IF ANY BODY KNOWS WHERE I CAN GET ONE LET KNOW YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT rgibbs123@comcast.net THANK YOU.

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I think it's wonderful that the greatest motorcycle company of all time is returning! I just don't want this to be another sorry attempt to copy a legend. I want to see a cheif that can take Harly- Davidson and make them file bankrupcy! HA! HA! HA!
Please post some more pictures and information about the new bikes.

Indian is the most proud name in motorcycle history DON't LET THE NAME DOWN!

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Right now it seems like they are selling the sizzle not the steak! While I want an Indian, I want to see one first,on the road,with someone like consumer reports completing an indepth investigation on the bike! Come on Indian give us some STEAK!

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I've read this on 2 separate blogs so far. Truth or fiction?


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Marilyn Stemp
Apr 8th, 2008 at 9:57 am

I had the opportunity to visit the factory and meet with the staff yesterday in Kings Mountain. They plan to produce 750 bikes in the first year, essentially one model, the Chief, accessorized to four versions, base price in the low 30’s. Looking for a 2009 model year to be released in Fall ‘08 but that’s contingent on getting the assembly line running this summer, and that depends on current engine durability testing. They are hopeful but also determined to release bikes only when they’re ready. They’ve read the blogs, know the history, they’re probably reading this!

The staff is small but very tech heavy, mostly engineers, many with impressive track records in the motorcycle industry. The owners are spending their own money and have one equity investor, no plans to go public. They seem to be spending as necessary, not foolishly, taking a slow growth approach.

They’ll assemble engines and whole bikes at the factory using components sourced mostly in the US, some from Europe, a bit from China for expediency, the latter to be phased out I’m told.

Same style frame as the Gilroy Indian but retooled, built using robotic fixturing. The 105 ci Powerplus EFI engine (50 state compliant) has nicosil-plated aluminum cylinders, forged pistons (piston weight reduced to address vibration issues), new crank, more. They’ve re-designed and re-positioned air intake, re-designed electrical system. Trans is a Baker 6, 5.5 gal one-piece gas tank w/integral fuel pump, short and long fenders are offered. Lower CG, seat height may be a bit lower than Gilroy bike, handlebars have been altered in both width and reach dry weight about 740. Concerning looks, the bikes I saw incorporated refinements in styling that result in improvements over the Gilroy bike, a cohesive machine, no parts tacked on as an afterthought.

They’ve been intentionally circumspect, partly to build interest - we’ve all been wondering what’s going on and talking about them, right? - and partly to keep quiet until they get it right. I’ll look for Cyril’s take later this week.

More detail provided in my article in IronWorks. Sorry, mike x.

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TKO:

Truth. More details to follow in the very near future, especially for Chief's Club members.

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I hope the price quted in the "article" from Ironworks is way off. If Indian has a base price in the low 30's they will never get my business or anybody else's except for the extremely wealthy.

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good to hear that production is finally in sight. but a bit worried about the ''low 30's'' this im afraid will be above most folks price range.This bike i bet will be built as needed with not but a few in the showroom for customers choose from .but im sure they will be fine bikes. But i sure wish Indian would build a bike in the price range of a superglide for working joes and janes who really ride bikes as serious transportation.and of course the fancy ones for rich folk who ride on weekends.But Id like to wish Indian motorcycle company the best luck and the brightest future. ok nuff sed except this ""DONT FORGET THE WORKING STIFFS WHO RIDE TO MAKE A LIVING BUILD US A BIKE AROUND 12 OR 13 THOUSAND TOPS'' THANKS MOTOHEAD....

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Glad to hear all the good news,I have a 2003 Roadmaster and love it. I ride it everywhere and will be willing to spend the money required for the new Indians. I will never part with my current Indian and am sure the same will be true when I acquire one of the new Chiefs. Take your time guys and get it right. Owning a Chief to me is a lifetime investment. I am not wealthy but understand the cost of doing it right.

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Low 30's?! Not cool.

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I was a little shocked when I saw the prices in the low 30s. I'm hoping there are other details overlooked by the casual observer that would command this price. It looks like I'm going to have to put in some overtime to make my payments. Knowing that, I can appreciate Indian's perseverance in making sure these machines come off the line without a single problem. I'm looking forward to the order forms and specs for building my Chief!

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I just bought a 2003 Scout. I love it. I have always admired the Indian. I used to have a HD and felt good about any service issues because they could be handled by the local dealer. I do live close to an Indian dealer who may or may not be one in the near future. My concern is, does anyone know of recals as someone mentioned earlier about these Gilroy bikes??? Does anyone know of something I should be aware of regarding the 03 Scout? Thanks in advance.

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Where is Kings Mountain Located?

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HOLY SHEET METAL..................... LOW 30s IS WAY OUT OF YOUR AVARAGE JOEs PRICE RANGE. I UNDERSTAND THAT IMC IS PUTTING ALOT OF THEIR OWN MONEY INTO THIS COMEBACK, BUT 30K IS NOT WHAT TODAYS VTWIN RIDERS WANT TO SPEND. IM SURE ITS GOING TO BE A NICE BIKE. HOWEVER, ID RATHER BUY A 2003 CHIEF FOR 12K-15K AND DUMP ANOTHER 5K TO WORK ANY BUGS OUT OF IT AND INSTALL A NEW BAKER TRANNY LIKE THE 09s. I WAS REALLY CONSIDERING ON BUYING AN 09 AND WILLING TO SPEND ABOUT 21K-25K. I ALSO HAD A FEW HARLEY BUDDIES INTERESTED IN THE NEW BIKE. IM SURE ONCE I TELL THEM ABOUT THE PRICE, THEY'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THERE HDs. DAMN THIS SUCKS. THIS CHANGES EVERTHING FOR ME AND MY PLANS TO BUY AN 09. ANYBODY LOOKING TO BUY AN INDIAN BETTER DO IT SOON BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THE GILROY BIKES JUST WENT UP. GOOD LUCK IMC. WITH TODAYS ECONIMY AND MAYBE A RECESSION COMING SOON, ITS GOING TO BE HARD TO MOVE ANY OF YOUR NEW BIKES. ONLY THE HIGH ROLLERS WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE NEW 09s. DAMN, DAMN DAMN, IM SO PISSED.

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I've been thinking about the price of the new Indians ever since I was hit in the face with it when I read this blog. We have been waiting a long time for this moment only to have it pulled out from under us at the end. I, like many others already put money down on one of these machines. I, however probably would not have had I known it was going to be this expensive in the end. The low 30's !? Come on, I could by a low end Mercedes for that price. We have been loyal to Indian and have waited patiently. Patience is now at an end. The economy is going down, food and gas are going wayyyyyyyy up. I want to ride a bike for the freedom...the freedom from filling up my truck with expensive gas so that I can fill my kids bellies with food and take care of my wife. Harley is starting to hurt and won't be manufacturing as many bikes this year and Indian wants to sell theirs at a price range that is going to hurt more than it is going to help. I figured the bikes would go in the low 20's at most for the stock bike but to hear it is going to be in the low 30's really is a punch in the face. I'm sorry but I am no elitist that can run out and buy a really expensive bike to show off to my friends at the polo grounds on the weekends. Indian remember where you came from and build us a bike that we can afford. This is simply not fair to the guys that have waited so long for this. We want you to throw us a bone please...and not a $30,000.00 one. By the way Kings Mountain is just outside of Charlotte, NC. Thats North Carolina for those of you in Rio Linda.

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Low 30's is an intelligent price point. It declares exclusivity, keeps the rif-raff out, and guarantees another short run of bikes for collectors. Seriously, I'd pay 30K for a unique American built cruiser that could ride 2-up comfortably across the Country, stow enough gear for the ride, corner like a 999, top speed near the superbike range, superb braking, 200 mile fuel range, heated seats and grips, Nav, and 100k/10 year fender to fender warranty. I certainly hope that's what's hitting the streets at the end ofthe year....if so - I'm there Baby! If not....ho hum, have fun with the huge discounts.

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Exclusivity.... so you wanna ride alone Premetalman... with your attitude... you probably will....30K+ out of my price range... so I must be rif-raff in your eyes.... but I see me as an honest hardworking American joe..... that just won't put that kinda jingle in any mode of transportation... hopefully after you've tired of yours... I can pick it up on the cheap...

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Uhmm - I was being facetious....I thought I left enough clues - guess not.

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Premetalman, are you serious? Bikes are for riding, first and foremost. Production bikes are just that, production bikes that must compete with the rest of the market. If you want a collectors bike, go have one built, park it in your museum and look at it. The other 99% of us ride our bikes. If you read the blog that was the base price. Good luck with your luggage, superbike speed, heated seats, blah blah blah. I own an Indian Spirit already and love it. I would love to own a KM Indian but $30K is way out of my price range so I guess me and the riff-raff will keep on riding while you and your collector/weekend warriors are busy looking at and polishing each others trophies. By the way, who is Indian competing with in this price range? Base prices for THE OTHER companies bikes fall well short of 30K. Thumbs up STU, maybe we can all get a ride together to premetalmans museum.

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as we look to the future, let us not for get the past. I have read on the home page as I have heard countless times, that the Gilroy Indians looked like harley's. My response is, No, harley if anything look like Indians! isn't Indian the first american bike? didn't Indian make the first V-twin, just to name afew things. Hey, even Sturgis was started by Indian riders. you got to know your history. come to find out, even though the Gilroy bikes had the carburator on the right side, harley had a bike in 1964 with their carb. on the left. I know, I've seen it, the K model. I'm biting at the bit for the return of America's first name in motorcycles. So, yes harley-davidson lives, but Indian Motorcycles started it all! Know your history! ride on!!!!!

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Let's see if anyone is listening. As a former Indian mechanic, HD Service Mgr and Advisor and Honda / Kawi Service Mgr I feel qualified to issue this wake-up call: is anybody watching the state of affairs at the HD dealerships? Many have closed and the showrooms are flooded with overpriced toys. Discretionary income is at an all-time low with no more re-fi money available. The so-called "chopper" (their really customs) faze has dried up with vendors on the edge or in the middle of bankrupcy. The used bike market is flooded with poser bikes the owners can't make the $500 month payments on.

Sadly, many used Indians are sitting unsold / unused due to past quality issues and/or parts availabilty or access to savvy technicians. I love Indian and always will - my retirement (soon) will focus on re-manufacturing the Gilroy bikes in my shop in New Mexico.

The reason for this dribble is simple: Even the oil companies ripping us off at $4.00 plus/gallon won't support volumne sales of a $30K bike. Consider a re-manufacturing program for the Gilroy bikes. Support those people who supported the brand.

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Forgot one key issue in yesterday's blog - any thoughts been given to a 3-wheel Indian? I know, it violates the vintage purist outlook - but it is reality.

The relative age of those riders who can afford to play with the high-priced spread is increasing at a rapid rate promting a significant resurgance in trike interest - balancing 800 lbs on two wheels for long stretches loses its' machismo after awhile. Not to mention it's one hell of a lot safer to tow a trailer (cooler) behind - matching Indian Trailers?

Conversions are not without registration/smog issues as curb weight increases. It is best all around to deal with this out of the gate. Can guaranty u that the aftermarket will and have little concern for how it impacts factory warranty. To ignore the aging market may prove short sited - we are living longer.

Sidecars? - subject for another day.

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I bought a 2000 Indian Chief new off the showroom in 2001 with 34 miles on it. I picked it up for 17,900 from the dealer because it was a showroom model and many asses sat on my bike. I've put 12,000 mile on the ride over the years, traveling to Myrtle Beach bike week, Rolling Thunder, Americade, and a lot of New England rides. The bike has really held up well. I had a voltage regulator problem early on that was covered by warranty. I've had my bike serviced at Indian dealerships in St Albans, VT, Springfield, MA, South Royalton, VT, and even go to Yamaha dealers for service. It's a big V-twin....luckily I have a S and S engine making it a bit easier.

The bike is a real eye turner, however, it'll be a few years before I spend that much on a new one. I think 20-25K is reasonable as you'll find you won't need any add-ons to make an Indian compare to a chromed out HD. When I get gas with my buddies who ALL own HD's.....I'm the one most people come talk to (kids, chicks, and old seniors who "remember when"). We've had several breakdowns over the years and I've never been in the photo getting the tow! I've always been taking the picture of my friend's HD and his smiling face.

Good luck to the company, do it right, do it for your valued riders.

Doing it Right !!!

It can take another 2 yrs for all i care - and i'll tell ya why. HAVE ANY OF U WHINNING babies started biznes b4???

Stellican is 'not' - i repeat 'not' even remotely similar to the Gilroy money grumbing whores. Gilroy had bout 9 bitching 'car' exec's all making 6 figs and sucked the coffers dry. The 'brilliant' Gilroy execs took an old grocery store, hired 450 employees (what the hell were they thinking) - w/ virtaully ' O ' QC, threw in an 'S & S' motor and said hey..."It's an Indian". It was nothing more then an OCC assembled bike w/ the word 'indan' on it.

Stellican has ONLY ONE SHOT of bringing America 1 helleva a bike. They know it !!! They are not 'teasing' u/ us. They are doing it correctly. A dealer network takes a cple of yrs people. Neg a warrenty takes a couple of yrs. Design takes a cple of yrs. It took HD 10 yrs to com out w/ a chopper - and that fade is at it's end.

Now, if u hav a little patience, these new "Indian cats" hired phenomenal to bring Indian back w/ well thoughtout FI reliable engine, styling, and a brand of clothing that suits Indian.

Peace b ur journey - and i look 4ward 2 c what Indian has to offer.

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One can make the case that a Harley is not worth $7000.00 more then a Honda, that being said, how can any one make the case that an Indian is worth $15000.00 more then a Harley???????????? So you can buy a Honda, or take a big loan out on a Harley, or go to a Indian stealaship and get scalped to the tune of $30.000.00 plus!!!! THIS IS GOT TO BE A BAD JOKE Mr Indian Motorcycle Co. we want to buy and if you want to sell to us , come down to a harley price and you may have a chance to sell some indians. I do not expect you to come down to a price above Honda and below Harley because you would own the motorcycle market in the world. At $30,000.00 plus this is a bad joke , but its on the Indian motorcycle Co. I came on this site with hope of the Indian come back for good , do the right thing and it will be for good , and I for one will buy a Indian motorcycle. I can aford one now at 30,000.00 plus , but I am not a fool or a sucker. Thank You Very Much

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Well for one I am glad to see that the effort to bring Indian back is in place. We at “ClassicsMotorSports” have been restoring the Original Indians since 1976. Then when the Gilroy factory shut down we started servicing those bikes as well and we will continue to do so. I agree that there are many unsold HD's, Victory’s and other brands on the showroom floors. Part of the current problem with the motorcycle industry is the price on the motorcycles is not proportional in comparison to other vehicles. Up until a few years ago, a motorcycle was always an affordable alternative or even a very affordable extra. Now a days it is a very expensive proposition. What the New Indian venture needs to do is introduce models that will appeal to everyone and price ranges that are affordable and will sell. However with only 2-3 models at very high prices how can anyone expect to compete effectively.
Like in the old days there needs to be multiple models and styles at various price structures. Such as "Junior Scout, Sport Scout, Scout, Chief and a Big Chief with an Indian Sidecar". This way there can be a motorcycle for everyone in their p